Gov Idris Wada pleads
Says political office should be turn by turn
Kogi State Governor, Idris Wada has pleaded
with the nation’s political leaders to allow peace to reign and avoid
activities that could affect the unity of the country as the struggle
over who occupies various exalted offices in the 2015 elections.
“We must nurture this democracy; let us save this democracy. We must
not do any act that will destabilize our democracy. Let’s put the nation
first. Let’s try to build the nation that our children will be proud
of, and be patient. If we don’t make it this time, look forward to next
time. If God has not given you the opportunity, look to those that God
has given. Power comes from God. It does not matter the level of desire,
it does not matter how smart or how rich you are. If it is not time for
you to be President or governor, or local government chairman, you can
never be. So, my advice and appeal to our people is to be patient on the
issue of leadership”, Wada begged his colleagues in public offices and
other aspiring political leaders.
The governor made the plea when he played host to a select group of
Journalists last week in Lokoja, the Kogi State capital where he bared
his mind on the nation’s 53rd independence anniversary and other issues
of national interest. ISMAIL OMIPIDAN was there for Saturday Sun. Excerpts.
Nigeria at 53, how far, how well?
For a country that is composed the way Nigeria is a multi-ethnic,
multi religious, country with a climate that spreads from the swampy
forest from the South to the desert climate in the North and the
inherent complexity, I think as a nation we have done well. If you look
at the context of our broken phases in leadership, changes in
leadership, tribal, regional conflict and all that. I think we have done
well to be quite honest. I think sometimes, we under assess ourselves
or we underrate what we have achieved. But some of the recent happenings
in the world show us that we done well as a nation. So, for me, I think
Nigeria has done well and my prayer is that the democratic experiment
that started 14 years ago should be sustained so that we continue to
move steadily towards full development.
What are some of the challenges you think Nigeria has faced in the last 53 years?
The first challenge is the transition from colonialism to self-rule,
to nationhood, a country of our own, rule by our own people and so that
involved the challenges of manpower, trust between the leadership in
terms of the various negotiation in form of amalgamation that brought up
Nigeria. Again, we also had political instability, regional politics,
rather than national politics. And because of lack of manpower, we had
to invoke the Nigerianisation policy. But it took us time to fill key
positions. Also, we took our eyes away from agriculture and other
economic activities that could have sustained us. And after all these,
came the military coups that interrupted progressive governments, thus
making succession of governments difficult. And each one that came,
condemn the one that was before it, through away all their policies
whether good or bad. So, if we are to look at Nigeria in terms of
sustained development, we have to look at the last 14 years and if we
are honest, we will know that things are looking up, they are looking
positive. In spite of the positive development, however, we still have
issues of tribalism, religious conflict and now we have terrorism, which
is a new thing. Nigerians are good people, and are generally honest and
genuine people. Some of these things happening are strange to us,
because in the past, we trust one another. Many of us, who grew up in
villages, know that in those days, there was trust, people were honest.
You can leave your door open, and sleep outside. There is that dignity
of being a Nigerian where ever you are. But all of these are today being
disorganised by the new trend. So, for a nation that has gone through
this kind of trends, I think we should just thank God for this our
country and forge ahead with our democratic experiment.
Many also believed that, but for leadership, Nigeria would have moved farther than where it is today. What is your take on this?
Yes, I agree with that. I think that again, our political leadership
has been frequently interrupted by military regimes. Even in the last 14
years of democracy, things have not been easy, because of the nature of
our politics, where you are required to balance so many things in
everything you do. It is not straightforward. For example, if you become
a governor or minister, you cannot just appoint people the way you
like. In other climes, you do that. But here you have to balance with
what local government the persons come from, is he a Christian, a
Muslim, which ward, which tribe, all those issues. So, I think in our
own context, we have done well. The leadership has some blame, just like
the citizens too, have some blame.
Lokoja played an important role in Nigeria’s formative years.
Will you say Lokoja has attracted the due attention it is supposed to
attract, considering the role it played?
Lokoja has not attracted the kind of attention that it should get,
and it is very unfortunate because Lokoja is a special city. It is a
city that has special blessings from God Almighty. It is a confluence
city. The two biggest rivers in this sub-region, both confluence in this
city. Historically, as you said, this was the city of Lord Lugard. This
was the city on top of the mount that Lord Lugard’s partner, Flora
named Nigeria. She looked at it and said look, ‘the best name for it is
Nigeria.’ It was named in 1847 and then we had the 1914 amalgamation.
The nation should pay more attention to Lokoja. And for me as
governor, I am focusing on renovating and refurbishing all colonial
relics, with a view to giving Lokoja a new face. We got Lokoja adopted
by UN habitat as one of the 10 cities in the world that the UN wants to
work with, to develop into a world city without losing its cultural
value. So, we are working with UN habitat to see how we can transform
Lokoja into a world city without losing its cultural value. So, I think
the nation needed to have paid more attention to Lokoja, as a symbol of
our country’s unity, centre of Nigeria, the heart of Nigeria. Every
Nigerian should feel part of Lokoja, because 23 states cross us from
North and South. So, I think during our own time, we would try to make
it a home for all, make it hospitable and try to project the image of
Lokoja in the scheme of affairs of Nigeria.
Before you became governor, the security situation in Kogi
State, especially, Okene, used to be bad, how have you been able to
address this?
Well, when I came in, I said no to thuggery and I practicalised it.
When young people came and started causing rancour, looking for money, I
said no. We provided a youth empowerment programme that will provide
opportunities for youths to stand on their own. I let them know that
thuggery is not going to take them anywhere, and we demonstrated
practically that we will punish anyone caught in the act, in accordance
with the law. We said please organise yourselves and we provided them
with empowerment. We empowered the security agencies as much as we can,
supported them to do their work and in me they have a listening
governor. We hold regular security meetings. They come with strategies,
we implement them. People can see them practically. We are
straightforward, we are focused and we mean business. So we passed the
anti-thuggery law by the House of Assembly. And with the various
opportunities available in agriculture and some of the small scale
businesses, the youth are now seeing that crime does not pay, and that
it is better to have something to do. And this is what has helped us.
In the Okene area, where there was a lot of violence, again we
mobilised police and military into action and made example with a few
people. We are able to bring peace there with the cooperation of the
leaders and elders. The elders there were tired of the violence and they
could see that they have a partner in me, who is sincere about stamping
out this violence. I told them that my own political ambition is not
worth the life of any individual. So, I will not tolerate violence or
encourage such things, never! I thank God that the message has gone
across, and with the cooperation of leaders and the youth groups, women
groups, everybody working hand- in- hand with the government and
security agencies, we have been able to bring the situation under
control.
Very soon, you will be two in office, as Kogi State governor, how has it been so far?
It has been very interesting and very challenging experience. I came
with a clear perspective of where I want to take the state to. There
were many challenges, particularly, that of finance. After we pay
salaries, we have very little money for other things. I am working very
hard to see that our tax collection increases, because if you don’t have
people working, you can’t tax them. We are encouraging people to do
something with their life so that we can have tax revenue, encouraging
industrialization, promoting agriculture, unity of our people, peaceful
co-existence, all of these we are working on. Kogi is a melting pot. But
because I have a clear blueprint, that is on the path of development,
which I am pursuing, I can see that things are improving gently, not as
fast as the people want because of lack of resources and because of the
time it takes to settle down in government. I came here from a private
sector perspective. And in private sector, everything is
straightforward. You select the best; deploy the resources and move in.
But in government, it is not like that. In government, so many
considerations come in. I think, for me, we have made a satisfactory
progress in the last one year or so.
For instance, in our youth empowerment programme, agriculture is the
focus. That is what we are doing. You know we started with accelerated
rice programme. Immediately after the flood, the whole place was looking
shabby and devastated. I said look, ‘what are we going to do with
this,’ and that is how the idea came. I say let us do rice farming. So,
immediately, we contacted the Federal Ministry of Agriculture and got
few people together for agriculture development programme and we turn
this nasty place to beautiful grain environment with rice.
We encouraged cooperatives, youth groups to come in, we give them one
acre, and some half acre. We also give them seedlings, fertilizer and
other inputs. The people were able to grow rice. Within two, three
months, the rice was ripe for harvesting and from there so many of the
youth embraced that.
We have a sharing formula of 60-40. We give you the seedling, the
fertilizer, the land, you look after the land. When you harvest, you
take 40 per cent, government takes 60 per cent, which we will sell or
recycle to give us seedlings again for people to grow rice again. And
that has helped. As the water is receding, we will follow it by planting
more rice. We are also growing upland rice in place that are not on the
flood plane. Some of the local governments that have comparative
advantage for growing rice, are also growing rice, other places, they
grow cassava, some places we are doing soya beans. So, many of the
agricultural programmes are going on and youth are embracing them. Some
were being empowered with funds, others with inputs, and so far, so
good.
You were reported as saying you would complete the works of
your predecessor before starting your own. How far have you kept to that
promise?
What I said was that we would not abandon projects started by my
predecessor due to two reasons; one my predecessor ran a PDP government,
ours is also a PDP government, so there is a form of continuity.
Second, if I decide to abandon the projects, psychologically, it is the
people of Kogi who will lose. I sustained the key projects, and many of
them are completed now, before we start thinking of new ones. That is
not to say that we are not doing new projects. Things like providing
water, some rural roads, electricity for villages, health facilities,
schools, and building, tourism, and the rest are being provided. But
projects, worth like N3b, N4b, are the ones we cannot afford now,
because we had to pay a lot of money to sustain the ongoing projects,
which we met and which we believe are of benefit to the people of Kogi
state. So, abandoning them will be great disservice to the people of
Kogi State. That is what I did it. And I think it is good thing for the
people of our state. And also in our country, if we can adopt this, it
will be good, because it is the people who matter, not the person who
was there before. We have done significant work in completing the
projects that we met.
Away from Kogi State, there is this perception that the
PDP-led central government has not done well. How will you react to
this?
The Federal Government has done well. Let’s be honest. Let us be
realistic. That is the talk of the opposition. You saw the president’s
mid-term report. It has never happened in our nation. After two years,
he said ‘this is what I have done put it together, and assess me.’ So,
if you have time to read or watch its presentation, I think it is
impressive. The criticism is to be expected. I am happy you
(journalists) are not the ones saying so. You are only reechoing what
they are saying. The President has a road map. Transformation is not
easy. People like to hang on to their own ways of doing things.
Transformation means you have to do things differently, from the way it
is being done. That is the big challenge and I think the Federal
Government is doing this in a sustainable way. You research things,
bring people together, debate it, where are we, where do we want to go,
how do we get there, and putting resources available, expertise
available. So, I think the president has done well. The Federal
Government has done well. I don’t expect the opposition to praise Mr.
President. But the PDP has done well.
Talking about transformation, do you think Nigeria’s politicians will ever be transformed, with regard to election matters?
I think it is a going to take time, because of our own nature as
Nigerians. Because of these many languages, many tribes, multiple
religion. It is going to take time. But again, we are making progress,
because the National Assembly has tried to modify the electoral law,
they had to change some things in the INEC Act, to address some of these
things. For example, election cases can no longer last forever, we did
not have that before. Before, there was no provision that if you do not
participate in an election, you will not benefit from that judgment. But
we have that now. And a few other things are already in our law to
address some of the challenges existing in our system, that create some
of these rancour and challenges on the persons in power. I think as we
modify, I want to also suggest that we should make sure that when an
election is over, whatever the judiciary cases are, they must be
completed before the winner assumes office, so that the person coming
in to govern, will know his fate ab initio. Once the person
comes in, you can criticize him. But don’t distract him with legal cases
and others. You can challenge him, criticize him and debate his
performance, but dragging him to court, where he is not sure whether he
is going to be the governor next week, or after the ruling, is a waste
of time and resources.
…(Cuts in) I am sure you are talking from experience?
Yes, I am talking from my experience. I still have several other
cases in court against me with one year and eight months in office. It
just does not make sense. It is not good for the country. So, these are
the things we need to address. Also, the attitude of our people too
needs to change. They do not accept defeat and this thing is a tenure
thing. You must go one day. If you are alive, you will finish your
tenure, if you die, somebody will take over. That is the nature of
power. And to many people, it must be them, and this is the sad thing.
It is not about the people, it is about the individuals, and
unfortunately, that is the problem. If we think of the people, we think
of the nation, we think about democracy of the nation, we will always
give in and prepare for the next one to challenge the person. But
unfortunately, that is not the case.
Could that be the same reason there is crisis in the PDP now?
Well, we agreed not to speak to the Press on that. So I will abide by that.
As we move towards 2015, what is your advice to your colleagues-the politicians and Nigerians?
Let us be patient. We must nurture this democracy; let us save this
democracy. We must not do any act that will destabilize our democracy.
Let’s put the nation first. Let’s try to build the nation that our
children will be proud of, and be patient. If we don’t make it this
time, look forward to next time. If God has not given you the
opportunity, look to those that God has given. Power comes from God. It
does not matter the level of desire, it does not matter how smart or how
rich you are. If it is not time for you to be President or governor, or
local government chairman, you can never be. So, my advice and appeal
to our people is to be patient on the issue of leadership.
[Sun News]
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